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		<title>Oh No He Didn&#8217;t.</title>
		<link>http://jimmyolsensblues.com/2007/12/oh-no-he-didnt/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 04:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>TimmyB!</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Which one of Wally Wood&#8217;s 22 Panels That Always Work would you say this is? At least we can tell which one of Gerry Conway&#8217;s Sound Effects That Are Always Hilarious is in play here.___________________________________________All-Star Comics #58, written by Gerry Conway, drawn by Ric Estrada and, yes, Wally Wood. (DC Comics 1976, reprinted in the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>Which one of <a href="http://www.joseph-obrien.com/uploaded_images/wallywood22panel2560-769978.jpg">Wally Wood&#8217;s 22 Panels That Always Work</a> would you say <span style="font-weight:bold;">this</span> is? <br /><br /><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://bp3.blogger.com/_hzsMDzLKsl4/R1TddP-ZuII/AAAAAAAAAgE/XPsrBEcs0d4/s1600-R/allstar+58.jpg"><img style="display:block; margin:0px auto 10px; text-align:center;cursor:pointer; cursor:hand;" src="http://bp3.blogger.com/_hzsMDzLKsl4/R1TddP-ZuII/AAAAAAAAAgE/tD0Rjs2sK4I/s400/allstar+58.jpg" border="0" alt=""id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5139976569310787714" /></a><br /><br />At least we can tell which one of Gerry Conway&#8217;s <span style="font-weight:bold;">Sound Effects That Are Always Hilarious</span> is in play here.<br />___________________________________________<br /><span style="font-style:italic;"><span style="font-weight:bold;">All-Star Comics #58</span>, written by Gerry Conway, drawn by Ric Estrada and, yes, Wally Wood. (DC Comics 1976, reprinted in the Justice Society Vol. 1 trade paperback in 2006) </span></p>
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		<title>On Kid-Friendly Comics, Or Not So Much</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 15:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Allen</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[While there&#8217;s several things I&#8217;d like to discuss about the news coming out of the conventions in Charlotte and Philadelphia this past weekend, it&#8217;s one tossed-off line reported in CBR&#8217;s wrapup of the DC Nation panel in Charlotte Friday that irked me a bit:

Will any Vertigo characters like Swamp Thing or Constantine appear in the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>While there&#8217;s several things I&#8217;d like to discuss about the news coming out of the conventions in Charlotte and Philadelphia this past weekend, it&#8217;s one tossed-off line reported in <a href="http://cbr.cc/" target="_blank" title="CBR">CBR</a>&#8217;s <a href="http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=10877" target="_blank" title="wrapup of the DC Nation panel">wrapup of the DC Nation panel</a> in Charlotte Friday that irked me a bit:<br /></p>

<blockquote>Will any Vertigo characters like Swamp Thing or Constantine appear in the DCU?  DiDio said that he didn&#8217;t want any mature reader books to cross over, because of the all-ages nature of the DCU&#8217;s audience.<br /></blockquote>

<p>I agree with this sentiment &#8212; in part.  I do believe that the DC Universe should be, for the most part, all-ages territory.  If we want to get kids hooked at an early age, like so many of us life-long readers were, then the comics need to be something their parents feel comfortable buying for them or at the very least feel comfortable with their reading.  There&#8217;s plenty of places for comic with more adult content, both in other avenues within the Big Two and from other publishers.  But I think in general, the main books with the iconic superheroes should be somewhat kid-friendly &#8212; and by that I don&#8217;t mean that they need to be &#8220;kiddie books,&#8221; but kids should be able to pick them up and not be subjected to graphic sexuality and violence.<br /><br />The problem with DiDio&#8217;s &#8220;all ages&#8221; statement is that it <i>does</i> <i>not</i> represent the DC Universe as it stands right now.  Not as much as the statement might imply, anyway.<br /><br />Case in point, or case which is pointedly on my mind:  <i>Justice League of America</i> #6.<br /><br /><img alt="Red Tornado" src="http://geex.ws/img/red_tornado.jpg" align="right" hspace="5" /> You can certainly argue that Brad Meltzer isn&#8217;t writing this book with kids in mind.  For one, he&#8217;s a novelist more used to writing fiction geared toward adults, but even more to the point, with this series he&#8217;s writing for himself and people roughly the same age he is.  The current <i>JLA</i> is aimed squarely at the people who grew up reading comics (specifically DC comics) in the seventies and eighties and who now are thirty- and forty-year-olds with (theoretically, debatably) more sophisticated tastes in story theme and structure.  But what that means is the current JLA is <i>not</i> friendly to kids.  (I don&#8217;t believe sophistication or maturity <i>has</i> to equal kid-unfriendly, but in this case it does.)<br /><br />At that point in the story, the Red Tornado had achieved his long-held desire to be human.  His robotic consciousness and powers had been transferred into a human body, so he was able to experience all the sensory highs of being human &#8212; and, of course, the sensory lows.  And it&#8217;s in <span style="font-style: italic;">JLA</span> #6 that Meltzer lets Reddy <span style="font-style: italic;">really</span> feel those lows.  Solomon Grundy beats the holy hell out of the Tornado, pummeling him nearly to death, breaking his ankle and other body parts&#8230;<br /><br />&#8230;and then he rips the Tornado&#8217;s arm off just below the elbow.  Very, very graphically.  We get Ed Benes&#8217; lovely depiction of de-meated and de-handed bone stuck out from the stump of Red Tornado&#8217;s arm as he (Reddy, not Benes) screams in agony.  (For bonus points, Grundy then <span style="font-style: italic;">eats</span> the hand, though at least that act happens in shadow.)<br /><br />This, in Dan Didio&#8217;s &#8220;all ages&#8221; DC universe.<br /><br />(Also, good times in <span style="font-style: italic;">Justice Society of America</span> #3: as neo-Nazis tear apart a family reunion, little kids included.  Not quite on par with the hand-eating in <span style="font-style: italic;">JLA</span>, but a bit disturbing nonetheless.  And let&#8217;s not even touch on the amount of gratuitously graphic violence in <span style="font-style: italic;">Infinite Crisis</span>.)<br /><br />Look, I&#8217;m not squeamish when it comes to violence in comics &#8212; <span style="font-style: italic;">Preacher</span> is one of my all-time favorite series, and the sorts of violence routinely featured in that book far, far outpaced the recent events in <span style="font-style: italic;">JLA</span> or <span style="font-style: italic;">JSA</span>.  But <span style="font-style: italic;">Preacher</span> was in <span style="font-style: italic;">no way</span> intended for kids and it didn&#8217;t feature the big recognizable DC icons.  Books like <span style="font-style: italic;">JLA</span> and <span style="font-style: italic;">JSA </span>should be treated as gateway books, comics that new readers (including kids, <span style="font-style: italic;">especially</span> kids) interested in mainstream superhero books can pick up and get hooked by.  Same goes for the main <span style="font-style: italic;">Avengers</span> books, <span style="font-style: italic;">Teen Titans</span>, the main <span style="font-style: italic;">X-Men</span> books (just to touch on teams).  There&#8217;s plenty of places for the more mature, more graphic storytelling, even within the mainstream Marvel and DC lines.<br /><br />Also, I&#8217;m not saying that violence shouldn&#8217;t be part of <span style="font-style: italic;">JLA</span> and its ilk.  Violence is a large part of the tapestry of mainstream superhero comics and always has been.  But the violence can certainly be treated a little differently, can&#8217;t it, in certain books?  What Grundy did to Red Tornado was thematically central to what Meltzer was doing with that story &#8212; that scene might have been <span style="font-style: italic;">the</span> central point of &#8220;The Tornado&#8217;s Path.&#8221;  I believe, though, that the theme would have been as well served with, say, a shot of the Tornado on his back on the ground, Grundy clearly having him pinned and gripping his arm; appropriately disturbing sound effects; later shots where it&#8217;s obvious that Reddy is missing part of his arm.  The same events, the same meaning to Red Tornado (and therefore to the audience), but done in such a way that&#8217;s at least <span style="font-style: italic;">closer</span> to being truly an all-ages book.  Less visceral, perhaps (in more than one sense), but still effective.<br /><br />I&#8217;m a parent.  I <span style="font-style: italic;">want</span> my kids to read comics.  I&#8217;ve already gotten my girls hooked by buying them their very own issues of <span style="font-style: italic;">Krypto the Superdog</span>, based on the animated series.  My older daughter loves to try to find comics from my stack I can read to her, but I&#8217;m very careful about what I let her look at &#8212; y&#8217;know, one of my main responsibilities as a parent.  When I was a kid, probably eight, nine years old, <span style="font-style: italic;">Justice League of America</span> was one of my favorite books, one of the few I bought every month without fail.  I don&#8217;t remember anything in those issues my dad would particularly have objected to.  But no way in hell would I want my kids reading something like the current <span style="font-style: italic;">JLA</span> #6 until they were teenagers, and I think that&#8217;s a shame and a disservice to a book which I think should be a way into comics for younger readers.<br /><br />Am I wrong here?  Am I being entirely too old-fogey for my own good?  Do we just say &#8220;Well, there&#8217;s the Johnny DC line and the Marvel Adventures line for the kids &#8212; let us adults have our bloody arm-severings in our mainstream superhero comics?&#8221;  Or are we assuming that kids aren&#8217;t reading these books anyway, so we don&#8217;t even have to worry about making them kid-friendly?  Would all be made well if Dan DiDio just gave up on the myth that the DCU is truly all-ages and admitted that DC&#8217;s mainstream output is geared toward adults?  I&#8217;ll readily admit that I could be wrong on this topic and that my views could be outdated or outmoded &#8212; I&#8217;m really curious to hear what all seven of our readers have to say on the subject.</p>
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